and he did not have the physical presence that washington had. i think washington is our greatest president. >> why? >> he set the standards for behavior, integrity and patriotism of the best kind, not the flag-waving kind, but true love of country. all of our best presidents, without exception, have had a sense of history, and i don't think that's coincidental. one of the things that a sense of history gives to a person is not just an appreciation, an understanding of what happened before we came along, but the realization that we, too, are a part of history and we, too, are going to be judged by history. and that's extremely important. today's polls, today's -- tomorrow's headlines are not going to matter. what matters, how will you look, how will this time look in time to come? what cathedrals are we going to build?